{"id":3099,"date":"2016-03-07T03:32:29","date_gmt":"2016-03-07T03:32:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/raizinvest.com.au\/investors\/our-letter-to-the-hon-malcolm-turnbull-from\/"},"modified":"2024-04-04T17:09:50","modified_gmt":"2024-04-04T17:09:50","slug":"our-letter-to-the-hon-malcolm-turnbull-from","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/raizinvest.com.au\/investors\/blog\/our-letter-to-the-hon-malcolm-turnbull-from\/","title":{"rendered":"Our Letter to The Hon. Malcolm Turnbull (from Raiz, previously Acorns)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>4 March 2016<\/p>\n<p>The Hon. Malcolm Turnbull,<br \/>\nMP<\/p>\n<p>Prime Minister<\/p>\n<p>Parliament House<\/p>\n<p>Canberra ACT 2600<\/p>\n<p>Dear<br \/>\nPrime Minister,<\/p>\n<p><b>Establishment of the FinTech Advisory<br \/>\nGroup<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I write to congratulate the Australian<br \/>\nGovernment on its decision to establish a FinTech Advisory Group, and I<br \/>\ncontinue to welcome the increased focus on encouraging innovation in Australia,<br \/>\nparticularly in the FinTech sector. \u00a0As<br \/>\nan active member of this community, and having recently launched our Acorns<br \/>\nproduct in Australia, I have experienced first-hand the dramatic surge in<br \/>\nactivity in this industry, and I look forward to its continued growth.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I strongly believe there is<br \/>\nmajor issue that, if left unresolved, will prevent FinTech innovation and<br \/>\ncompetition achieving its full potential in Australia.<\/p>\n<p>It is my contention there is lack of<br \/>\nunderstanding and confusion in the public mind that they are no longer<br \/>\nprotected by Australian regulations, and that the liability protections under<br \/>\nthe terms and conditions on which they conduct their internet banking do not<br \/>\napply when they deal with FinTech start-ups such as ourselves. \u00a0<b>This<br \/>\nis not the case.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I am concerned and disappointed to see<br \/>\nbanks and other financial institutions seek to discourage users from engaging<br \/>\nwith FinTech by exacerbating the confusion and fear in this area.<\/p>\n<p>It should not fall upon the small start-ups<br \/>\nto educate investors about their rights and obligations vis-\u00e0-vis their banks,<br \/>\nand it should not fall upon small start-ups to monitor the information that is<br \/>\nbeing disseminated to consumers by bank employees.<\/p>\n<p>To explain this more specifically, Acorns<br \/>\nis a micro investing \/ micro savings smartphone application. When a user signs up<br \/>\nto the app, they provide Acorns (and its service provider Yodlee) with their<br \/>\nbank account log-on details and password. There has been significant media<br \/>\ncommentary (both social and mainstream),<br \/>\nincluding comments made by persons who purport to be bank employees, that by<br \/>\ndoing this, the user becomes liable for <b>any<\/b><br \/>\nunauthorised transactions. As you would expect, these type of comments are<br \/>\ncreating great consternation and discouraging users from engaging with FinTech<br \/>\ncompanies, such as Acorns.<\/p>\n<p>However, this commentary, and the stance<br \/>\ntaken by the purported bank employees, is wrong. It is clear under the <i>ePayments Code<\/i> (<b>Code<\/b>) (which all major Australian banks have subscribed to) that<br \/>\nthe user will not be liable for any unauthorised transactions because:<\/p>\n<p>(a)<br \/>\nthe user expressly appoints<br \/>\nAcorns and Yodlee to collect information on the user\u2019s behalf only (i.e. Acorns<br \/>\nand Yodlee have \u201cread only\u201d access to the user\u2019s bank account. <b>They cannot effect transactions<\/b>); and<\/p>\n<p>(b)<br \/>\nAcorns and Yodlee protect the<br \/>\ndata using encryption and bank standard security measures to keep it safe.<\/p>\n<p>Consequently, the user does <b>not<\/b> breach the requirements of the<br \/>\nCode, nor the terms and conditions of their bank contract and does <b>not<\/b> become liable for <b>any and all<\/b> unauthorised transactions.<\/p>\n<p>I would urge the FinTech Advisory Group and<br \/>\nASIC to consider this issue, given their mandate to encourage FinTech<br \/>\ninnovation, while reducing barriers and ensuring that these barriers are not<br \/>\n(mis)used by incumbent players to discourage competition. Unless this issue is<br \/>\nresolved, I believe it will stunt the development of FinTech, an integral part<br \/>\nof the Innovation strategy recently articulated by you.<\/p>\n<p>Please be aware that we will release a copy<br \/>\nof this letter to our users (of which there are over 50,000) and to the media<br \/>\nat large.<\/p>\n<p>Should you wish to discuss this matter<br \/>\nfurther or if you have any questions or comments, please contact me on 1300 954<br \/>\n678.<\/p>\n<p>Yours faithfully<\/p>\n<figure><img src=\"https:\/\/78.media.tumblr.com\/4d112e21dcd770e9dd583be06cd49469\/tumblr_inline_o3ngp8EVAF1ts449e_540.png\" alt=\"image\" \/><\/figure>\n<p>George<br \/>\nLucas<\/p>\n<p>Managing Director<\/p>\n<p>Acorns Grow Australia<br \/>\nLimited<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>4 March 2016 The Hon. Malcolm Turnbull, MP Prime Minister Parliament House Canberra ACT 2600 Dear Prime Minister, Establishment of the FinTech Advisory Group I write to congratulate the Australian Government on its decision to establish a FinTech Advisory Group, and I continue to welcome the increased focus on encouraging innovation in Australia, particularly in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yst_prominent_words":[]}